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overnight human charred remains have been found. are they the remains of christopher dorner? we have expert insight into the unfolding drama. and president obama lays out his vision for the nation in the state of the union address. his big schal length? getting congress to act on gun violence. >> the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. >> also this morning, the two gop responses. we'll dig into those as well. >> also new this morning, pope benedict xvi speaks out for the first time since his shocking resignation. what he told followers as they celebrate ash wednesday. plus, 4,000 people on that stranded cruise ship slowly being pulled to shore at this very minute and it is frankly gross out there. we have the latest. >> wednesday, february 13th. a special edition of "starting
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point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. you're watching "starting point." comi coming to you from the nation's capit capital. we have complete coverage from the president's state of the union address. first, the manhunt for an accused killer, christopher dorner. charred remains have been inside in that burned out cabin. with a suspect believed to be dorner. the body has not yet been identified. and it could be a while before there is a positive i.d.. >> recovering bodies out of burned buildings as you may know is very difficult and difficult to identify the remains of someone in a building and that could take days or possibly even weeks to do dna analysis or forensic dent alan alsis, depending on the condition of the body. >> police spent six days looking for the body around big bear
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lake. we have a look at how the search went and led to this point. >> shots fires, 445 shots fire. >> reporter: a hail of bullets, police radio captured the moment. a cabin burning to the ground, and fugitive cop kill eer dorne believed to be inside. the first dorner report came midday. two maids cleaning a home were tied up. their car stolen. the first law enforcement to spot the suspect in the stolen car were two fish and wild life officers. >> first was a purple nissan, which he ultimately appeared to have been driving too fast, lost control of the vehicle, crashed it. carjacked the second white pickup and was fleeing the seen which is when our warden noticed them. he was so close, he recognized his face. >> suspected cop killer christopher dorner. the suspect opened fire,
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narrowly missing the officers. they chased the truck to this cab inch. as they began the approach, the man inside opened fire. the gun fight captured by a local news reporter's cell phone. radio calls from the officers. >> returning fire. >> and then the heart-sinking call. >> officer down, officer down. >> officer down. >> medic ship in the air. medic ship in the air. >> officer down. >> another officer down. >> one of our deputies was injured. being treated here at loma linda, and, unfortunately, one of our deputies passed away as a result of his injuries. >> all law enforcement agencies a brotherhood so this is a very difficult day, again, for law enforcement. >> law enforcement closed down all roads in and out. searching cars leaving the mountain. back of the cabin, officers so
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no one leave, then this. >> more ammo going off. >> the person that barricaded himself inside the cabin and engaged in gunfire with deputies and other law enforcement officers is still inside. >> the cabin burned to the ground, the suspect believed still inside. san berardino sheriff's department confident enough to drop roadblocks even as they wait for identification that lapd's largest manhunt has come to an end. cnn, los angeles. again, news breaking overnight. charred human remains found in that burned out cabin. they have not been identified just yet. new detalils how officers were able to track dorner down. paul vercammen from big bear, california. police were focused on that area
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for nearly a week. how did they finally get their break? >> reporter: well, there is no doubt in my mind, police were actually right by the very house where two maids go to clean, and then inside to their shock here is this lethal fugitive. he heads down highway 38 and two fish and wild life warden who's spot dorner closed trailing two school buss, and trying to get up on the bumper of one and use those buses as cover and then from there, they were able to chase him down to the cabin where it appears he met his demise. >> paul, we're talking about an expolice officer. we're also talking about two police officers that he is accused or believed to have killed. so what is the mood of the law enforcement there now? >> reporter: it is absolutely bittersweet. in talking to a lieutenant here on this hill, he said, look, we're not out here giving each other high fives and
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congratulations. we're all so saddens by the loss of these officer and the people dorper killed, not all officers, and it's hanging over us. but you could also hear the moments of people saying, yes, i think we've got our man. >> thank you, paul. we have the former police chief of fairfax county, virginia. dealing with the manhunt for the beltway sniper in 2002. these are very different cases, but i think there are similarities it comes to a community very fearful and trying to track down people -- you had many fewer clues than the lapd had. >> my guess, there is a great deal of similarities in terms of the public fear, that, you know, folks that were around here ten years ago remember the knot in their stomach for a period of three weeks, and folks were changing their daily routines. >> ducking down when you fill up
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your car with gas, you felt like someone is watching me, they will shoot at me. what kind of clues -- what did you learn from the experience that you think the lapd is going to apply what looks like is bringing to an end in california. >> one, they had to set up a -- an information center where they could take tips in the public. the case in california had the advantage, they knew who they were looking for. we didn't know who we were looking for for a long time. they also had several different searches going on. you had the very public search where you had the man's picture out asking for the public's health help if they saw them. you have officers following up on the tips they received. you also had a stealth search. undercover folks, plain clothes folks out there looking for him. hoping they would spot him before he spotted them. >> how does it change things for you when police are actually the
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targets here? >> that is a huge issue. i can tell you for the week this thing has been going on, there was very little normal police officer that was going on. every police officer involved had their head on a swivel, constantly just relentless pleasure looking around. that's why they paired folks up to increase their safety. but i can tell you that the cops weren't thinking about enforcing traffic laws or doing the normal thinks, and yet police officer had to go on. people calling about their homes being broken into or had to respond to normal calls, but i will tell you, nothing was normal about the response during this time? >> what happened next? they will identify the body which we heard could take weeks. which seems a long time in a day and age where you could do dental records and do this quickly. >> they'll make some preliminary
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decisions and know 99.99% that this is the individual. they are pretty sure right now it's dorner. one of the things that's happening a lot of folks that got their first good night's sleep last night. >> my goodness, i bet. >> there will be a human sense of relief throughout the public as well. >> law enforcement and the community as well. thank you for being with us. we appreciate your insight on this. >> thank you. we're in washington for the state of the union address and mr. obama sure sounded like a candidate last night and this morning president obama hits the road for the first of a campaign style trip to drum up support. 53% of americans had a positive reaction to the speech. 21% sbomewhat, 22% negative. >> reporter: president obama said last night deficit reduction is lone is not an
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economic plan. and you are right, certainly echoes of the campaign. he talked about everyone deserving a fair shot and investing in the middle class. talked a lot about that with investments in education, clean energy, and an increase in the m minimum wage. >> we can say with renewed confidence that the state of our union is stronger. >> reporter: in the first state of the union address of his second term, president oobama ae of new proposals, taking on everything from universal preschool education to preparing the aging infrastructure to addressing the threat of climate change. he urged congress to put partisan issues aside and stay focused on jump starting the lethargic economy. >> we have worked too hard, too
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long to rebuild this crisis. . >> reporter: obama asked congress to increase the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour. >> let's declare in the wealthiest nation on earth, no one who works full time should have to live in poverty. let's tie the minimum wage to the cost of living so it becomes a wage you can live on. >> reporter: in the moment of the night the fwrez called on koch to vote on tougher gun legislation, stepped up background checks and an assault weapons plan. >> gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. >> reporter: on national security, the president warned of the threats posed by hackers, and adding long-sought details of the pace of the drawdown in afghanistan, he announced plans
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to bring home half the troops serving there by this time next year. >> another 34,000 american troops will come home from afghanistan this drawdown will continue, and by the end of next year, our war in afghanistan will be over. >> reporter: how will all of this be paid for? the president vowed. >> nothing i proposed tonight will increase our deficit by a single dime. >> reporter: but there was no price tag, and the white house says dollars and cents will be fleshed out when president obama unveils his budget. >> thank you very much. republican senator marco rubio gave the republican response to the state of the union address. among republican voters who took the dial test, wait to measure if they like what he's saying, rubio scored the biggest points when he talked about big government. >> the idea more taxes and more
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government spending is the best way to help hard working middle class taxpayers an old idea that's failed every timist been tried. more government won't help you get ahead. it will hold you back. more government isn't going to create more opportunities. it's going to limit them. and more government isn't going to inspire new ideas. new businesses, and new private-sector jobs. it's going to create uncertainty. >> republican senator rand paul gave the tea party response and chastised both parties for spending too much. he also talked about limiting the reach of the federal government. >> what america needs is not robin hood but adam smith. in the year we won our independence, adam smith described what creates the wealth of nations, he described a limited government that largely did not interfere with individuals in their pursuit of happiness. all that we are, all that we wish to be is now threatened by the notion that you can have something for nothing, that you
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can have your cake and eat it too. you can spend a trillion dollar every year that you don't have. >> rand paul will talk with erin burnett tonight, the interview will air on erin burnett "outfront." let's get to other news with zoraida in new york. good morning. >> good morning to you. new this morning, six people arrested over new phone hacking allegations at rupert murdoch's now defunct news of the world tabloid. this is part of a separate conspiracy to hack phones in 2005 and 2006. several top murdoch executives were arrested and charged in an earlier probe. both benedict celebrating what will likely be his last public mass on ash wednesday, he greeted thousands of his faithful in the square. he thanked them in several languages and said it would be
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inappropriate to stay on as pope. >> reporter: i have done this in full freedom for the benefit of the church. i have prayed for a long time and examined before god my conscience, fully aware of the gravity and insidiousness of such acts. >> a live report from vatican city in about ten minutes from now. gop senators threatening a filibuster after chuck hagel cleared a major hurdle to becoming the next secretary. the armed services committee narrowly approved the nomination hagel's nomination moves to the full senate for a vote, expected to happen this week, maybe as early as tonight. and four players on university of alabama's national championship football team arrested. safety eddie williams, linebacker tyler hayes and defensive appear lineman d.j. pettway accused of rob two students on campus.
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a fourth player, running back brent calloway charged with credit card fraud. head coach nick saban said all four are suspended indefinitely from the team. banana joe wins best in show. adorable or what? the affenpinscher took home the crown at the westminster kennel club dog show, and joe is going out on the top. the tippy top. westminster, his final competition. he beat out five other dogs. and i know, john berman, this makes you incredibly sad this morning. >> he's a cute affenpinscher as far as affenpinschers go, but we should recognize the labs and golden retrievers. >> i have never heard of the aftfenpinsche affenpinscher. a cute dog. >> there will be a run now. >> i think i want one. >> i'll do some research for you, soledad.
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>> thank you. make sure they are good pets for kids. stuck in the middle of the gulf of mexico. the story we've been covering for days now. almost no working bathrooms, thousands of people stuck on board a stranded cruise ship. starting to head home this morning with help from tug boats. we'll hear from a mom who has a little daughter and they are stuck on board. >> just awful. meanwhile, the pope speaks for the first time this morning since his bombshell resignation. live in rome with what he had to say just now. [ female announcer ] ready to mix things up with lean cuisine? try our entrees, snacks and new salads. wild salmon with basil, garlic chicken spring rolls,
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welcome back, everybody. new tales horrific conditions on that carnival cruise ship being towed back to shore on the gulf of mexico. the toilets overflowing, they are running out of food. >> there is sewage, raw sue ainl, blocking hallways, you have to cover your face, it's disgusting. >> a little bit of good news.
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a second tug has arrived. passengers say the boat at least is moving in the right direction. victor blackwell is live for us in mobile, alabama. that's where the ship is headed now and expected to arrive tomorrow. victor, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, soledad. good morning, john, as well. this boat is expected to come here tomorrow afternoon, moving along in the gulf of mexico at six knots, about 7 miles per hour, and once it gets to the mobile pass, another 33 miles to port and once those 3,100 passengers arrive here, we're told by the carnival -- the cruise port director, about 2 1/2 hours for the dee deembarkation process. some people will go to hotels to get showers, some will get on motor coaches to get back home. we spoke to two moms, kim and mary, they are from lufkin,
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texas. they were here early this morning. kim spoke to her 12-year-old daughter, they were eating onion santd witches on the day after the engines were on fire. listen to what she described. >> she called me hysterical, screaming and crying that she was so scared and she was scared not only for the -- what was happening on board, but she was afraid she would never get to see her mama again and for me to be at work and to hear that from my 12-year-old daughter i was devastated, and there was nothing i could do. nothing i could do. i got her to calm down, talked to her as long as she would stay on the phone, as long as she could. and when we said good-bye, it was very hard. i didn't know if i would see her or talk to her again. it's very hard. >> reporter: and carnival has canceled two cruises after this
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one and they will have to determine what went wrong here. there is a shipyard that can repair the problem, if necessary. soledad, john. >> victor, that's terrible. you listen to that mom describe that, just breaks your heart. wow. victor, thank you. appreciate the update. ashl a ashleigh banfield will speak to that mom about the situation her daughter is facing. for the first time since his resignation announcement pope benedict speaks, what he told more than 1 billion followers about his shocking plans. [ male announcer ] if you can clear a crowd but not your nasal congestion,
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welcome back, everybody. pope benedict x1xvi speaking to
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catholics around the world. first time he has spoken since his resignation. jim bittermann joining us live from rome. >> reporter: a regular papal audience, but a lot more people than usual. a lot of people wanted to see the pope. he began his message by talking about his decision to resign, and he was greeted with tumultuous applause from the audience. he said that he thanked them for their prayers and love and hoped that they would continue to pray for him and his successor. we've been hearing details about exactly how the pope's last days in the vatican will be spent. among other things, he will meet with its taalian political lead and on the 27th, another papal audience outside in st. peters
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square, they are expecting large crowds, and on the 28th, he will meet with cardinals for lunch and then get into a helicopter and fly off. >> a good-bye lunch and then flies off in a helicopter. jim bittermann, with st. peters behind you, thank you for being with us. charred remains found out in the burned out cabin where bliss believe suspect christopher dorner was hiding out. is the case really over? a teen stole a school bus and went on a joyride. why he said he did it. it will have you shaking your head for certain. hi. hi.
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advanced home management here today. adt. always there. welcome, everybody. developments in the dorner manhunt to tell you about. while you were sleeping, charred human remains found in the burned out cabin where ex-cop christopher dorner's ten-day killing spree apparently came to an end. a week before there may be a positive i.d. on the body, but law enforcement officials believe that the rogue former cop was in the cabin where he barricaded himself. i want to begin with casey wian, live at los angeles police headquarters. let's start with the investigation. and maybe even when will they be able to i.d. the body? >> soledad, that is a key
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component of the investigation, which is ongoing this morning. they say they have to do some forensic investigation, examination of those charred remains, they have not said what shape they are in. it could take anywhere from hours to several days before they have a positive identification of the person who is in that burned out building. also, another part of the investigation that is ongoing. the possibility that law enforcement said he could have had an accomplice or accomplices. you remember, perhaps, the marshal's warrant that was disclosed over the last couple of days from thursday, filed with the court, seeking arrest of dorner. it talked about an associate whose family had property in the big bear area. that associate and other known associates of dorner have been interview examined cleared, but they are not ruling out the possibility that he could have
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had accomplices. here is what the lapd had to say about that. >> anyone who has assisted him, assisted him in hiding from the police department, assisted him in avoiding capture or any way is crilley culpable and i can assure you that the los angeles police department and disytrict attorney's office will leave no stone unturned to see if someone was assisting him. >> reporter: another part of this investigation and operation that is ongoing, round the clock protection of 50 families linked to the lapd who could have been tar guess of dorner. they will not be -- that protection will not stop, soledad, until those remains are positively identified. soledad. >> one would expect. >> thank you, casey. appreciate it. chris boss, a former fbi lead kidnapping negotiator. when you watched this unfold,
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how now it seems we're focused on charred human remains, not identified as yet. how do you assess how it played out? >> as every moment of this went on, you look for more information on the possibilities how it might come out. hoping it will stop from being a gun fight and turn into some sort of communication that dorner would have wanted to live enough to be communicated and talked out. >> as a negotiator, when do you give up on negotiation? we're seeing reports that officers started knocking down the walls of the cabin before the fire. >> one of the hostage negotiator's job is to help protect tactical people if possible. a negotiator will continue to try to communicate with the person inside if nothing else, to provide a distaxes to people can get in. it's one thing to try to confuse
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people the middle of the assault. >> his manifesto seemed to indicate it would be a violent end. was that your sense too, it would end in some kind of confrontation and shoot-out? >> most likely. but everything deallhe did all along the way, he was completely enamered with himself, and desire to continue that overrides the desire to die. that might give you a thread to pull on. >> we were talking to lou polumbo, a retired police officer that does security, and he said the big break in the case is when the truck broke down. everyone thinks of it as the confrontation. but as soon as you have things under awry, you have a suspect under a lot of stress and then people act in a way that become a little more irrational. is that case? >> i think he got more confused.
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up to that point in time he had some sort of plan, but as soon as he lost vision of how he wanted things to play out, he did become much more confused and less predictable. >> you see this guy accused of killing two cops and taking hostages, as a negotiator, is there any way to connect with this type of guy? >> you look for his will to live it's not necessarily to connect with him, although some point in time you hope to, but you try to figure out what's motivating him and if he has any vision of his survival in the future for any reason, you try to find that and nurture it get it him to give up. >> from the outside can you tell what that might have been? >> everything he did was to try to copy him alive. if you can play to his ego, convince him he will become some sort of a folk here york nurture that ego part of him, enamered
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with himse with himself. >> he said the violence will continue until you guys hear my case, until my name is -- the wrong that's been done, my naum is cleared. you're on a murder spree, are you killing people, your name will never be cleared. you are killing other people. your name will never be cleared. >> it makes no sense to people watching it from outside. which is the hostage negotiator's job, figure out how it makes to them. >> chris voss, former fbi lead international kidnapping negotiator, absolutely fascinating. thank you for talking with us. >> in the next hour, we'll talk to los angeles mayor antonia ville ra guessa and terry turchie will join us, he joined in the counterterrorism unit in the fbi. president obama hits the road to rally public support for plans he spelled out in the state of the union address. last night he said congress must
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work with the white house to create jobs and grow the economy. >> most of us agree a plan to grow the economy must be part of the agenda. but deficit reduction alone is not an economic plan. a growing economy that creates good economic jobs must be the north star that guides our effort. >> marco rubio blasted the president's economic ideas. >> the idea more taxes and government spending is the best way to help hazard-working middle class taxpayers, that's an old idea that failed every time it's been tried. more government isn't going to help you get ahead. it's going to hold you back. more government isn't going to create more opportunities. it is going to limit them, and more government isn't going toib spire new ideas, new businesses,
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and new private-sector jobs, it's going to create uncertainty. >> that's the republican response. there was another response from rand paul. he spoke from the tea party, and he blasted both pearce for what he called excessive spending. zoraida sambolin with today's top stories. lack lou testifies before the senate finance committee later this morning for his bid to become treasury secretary. lawmakers expect to question lou about how he plans to manage the nation's finances and how he will police the financial service sector to a tailspin in 2008. a new study says taking folic acid during pregnancy may reduce the risk of giving birth to an autistic child. researchers in norway found women who took the supplement were 39% less likely to have a child with autism. the study in "the journal of the
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lebron james doing it in a way that nobody else has done. joe carter is here with this morning's bleacher report. >> good morning, guys. lebron is absolutely rolling right now and so are the miami heat, last night the heat won again, beat the trailblazers to win their sixth game in a row. lebron scored 30 points again. over the last six wins, a string of historic performances, scoring 30 points while making 60% of shots. the first player in nba history to be that efficient and that consistentory a six-game
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stretch. >> for me to be in the record books by myself, with such a stat, any stat, it is big time, and it's a -- you know, a tribute not only to my -- i don't care about myself, but my teammates allowing me to do that, my coaching stuff put meg in a position to succeed. i try to go on and do it. the best college basketball team in the state of michigan is michigan state. the spartans hammered their arch rival michigan by 23 points last night. michigan has lost three of four since they were ranked number one two weeks ago. michigan state on the other hand is tied for first in the big ten. which considered by most to be the toughest conference in college basketball. prince fielder, no doubt the guy is a big dude. tips the scales at 275 pounds. only fitting to put him on the world's largest baseball card. the topps trading card company
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unveiled this card at training camp. 90 feet by 60 feet. one of the questions was i wonder how big the piece of gum is inside and how long it will take to flip the card to see the stats on the back. a couple things to think about. will farrell, he was at the lakers game, donning the security guard uniform. even booted somebody from the game, shaquille o'neal, who so eloquently played along. farrell, of course, the middle of shooting "anchorman 2." his name tag did not say ron burgundy. check out bleacherreport.com. wish i could repeat the name on the name tag, but not appropriate for a family friendly show. >> text it to us so we can find out. thanks, appreciate it. >> you bet. one of the more passionate moments of the president's state of the union address was about gun control.
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hadiya's parents, nate and cleo are two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote.
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gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote, the families of oak creek and tucson and blacksburg and the countless other communities ripped open by gun violence, they deserve a simple vote. >> that was the most emotional moment of last night's state of the union address, the president asking for an up or down vote on gun legislation. as for the rest of the speech republicans focus on the cost and specifics, too, while the president insists none of his ideas will add a dime to the deficit. congressman chris van hollen, nice to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> i want to talk about the emotional moment and the optics of watching the optics of john
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boehner stand and clap and kind of sit because of course the debate around the clapping is what the argument is about. what did you think of the emotion of what was there. >> i had a guest carol price whose son was trangically kille in an and tccidental shooting. the president's right, what he's saying is he's got a proposal, universal background checks, let's see if you have a criminal record, if you have mental stability before you have a gun and at the very least let's have a vote. if speaker boehner and others want to do it, vote no, don't try to hide from the american people. people are looking for honesty in the debate, not people trying to put proposals in the drawer and hide from accountability and responsibility. >> you say honesty in the debate and accountability which bring us to the budget nicely.
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>> not one dime. >> not one dime. is that honesty and accountability and a long, long, long speech that had a long list of proposals that the president would like to see? that seems unrealistic. >> if you look at his budget from last year as well, and he mentioned it last night the american jobs plan, so what he did was he said we need to have some additional investments, targeted investments but we need to pay for them by eliminating spending in other areas and closing a lot of these special interest tax loopholes. the last presidential campaign both candidates, mitt romney and the president, talked about these tax breaks. they're still out there so the president says let's do some targeted spending cuts, not these across the board cuts like the sequester would result in, which would hurt the economy but let's do the targeted cuts. the president mentioned last night when it comes to medicare savings, he would achieve the same savings by the beginning of the next decade as the
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simpson-bowles plan would do. of course he does his medicare savings in a very different way than republicans and paul ryan would do. he does not support that voucher plan which transfers the costs on to seniors. he supports a plan to change the incentives within medicare and cycles the pharmaceutical companies to pay more. >> that's the proposal he's been talking well over a year, $400 billion for medicare savings. people say he didn't offer any new proposals to cut the deficit. is that a fair criticism? >> the plan he put forward before is as good today as it was when he first offered it. republicans have continued to resist it. we've now adopted pieces of it, we did $1.5 trillion in spending cuts. that's $1.5 trillion in 100% cuts, as part of the fiscal cliff agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff first round we had $600 billion in revenue from high income earners and what the president is saying is let's do
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another $1.5 trillion plus, but let's also do it in that balanced way, a combination of cuts and he identified the cuts in his speech with respect to some of the areas in health care. he's identified additional cuts in the plan he's presented to congress but also let's close these loopholes. remember, speaker boehner -- >> cuts, loopholes and additional revenue, do you have to go back to the well and raise taxes again in. >> the president's originalal proposal on revenue is $1.2 billion, we did $1 trillion. speaker boehner says he has a plan that would raise $800 billion by closing loopholes. we haven't closed any loopholes that benefit very wealthy people. the president has identified those repeatedly, carried interest loopholes for hedge fund managers, big tax breaks for big oil companies. the president said you can reduce the value of the deductions. >> if you end up raising taxes that begins to become a problem.
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>> the statakeaway is the balan approach, supported overwhelmingly by the american people, targeted cuts, and revenue by taking away loopholes. interestingly, you know, mitt romney and paul ryan talked throughout their campaign about these tax breaks that benefit very wealthy people. >> but those were instead of the tax, the tax hikes you passioned at the beginning of january. >> the point is why should we keep in the law tax breaks that disproportionately benefit very wealthy people. >> because you just taxed the wealthy people already in the last go round would be one of the answers to that question, right? >> but the president did not even get back to the clinton era tax rates for higher income individuals. so look, this has been part of the president's plan from the beginning. the republicans keep saying they don't have a plan. that's not true. they don't like his plan because as you say it does raise some
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more revenue combined with cuts to reduce the deficit. >> we will see where it goes. the debate has only just begun with what the president said last night, chris van hollen, congressman frommed in md thank you. a break-through discovery overnight, charred remains found in the cabin where suspected christopher dorner was holed up isn't his body. we gave you the democratic response to the state of the union address, and how do the republicans feel? we have senator rob portman next. (dog) larry,larry,larrryyy.
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new overnight, charred human remains have been found, are they of the suspected killer christopher dorner? the latest on the developing story. president obama delivers his state of the union address, the mission he says is to boost the middle class. >> let's declare in the wealthiest nation on earth, no one who works full time should have to live in poverty. >> one of the republicans and tea party members, what do they have to say about that? we will eight get their response. the president called for action on gun cloel a tending the state of the union were two parents who lost their daughter to gun violence, does her mother, cleopatra pendleton think the president went far enough? she's here for her first sit-down interview. and pope benedict xvi addresses his followers this morning after telling them he's
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resigning. >> it's wednesday, february 13th. special edition of "starting point" coming to you live from washington, d.c., this morning, gets under way right now. good morning. from raising the minimum wage to gun control we have a complete look this morning at the president's state of the union address from last night, going to talk about that with analysis as well straight ahead. first we want to begin with developments in the manhunt for accused killer christopher dorner. charred human remains have been found in a burned out cabin where police and a suspect believed to be dorner were involved in one final shoot-out. law enforcement seems confident they had killed the former police officer, could be a while before there's a positive identification. >> recovering bodies out of burned buildings as you may know is very difficult and it's difficult to identify the remains of someone in a building, that could take days
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or weeks to do a dna or forensic dental analysis depending on the condition of the body. >> police spent nearly a week looking for dorner around big bear lake. kyung lah reports. >> reporter: a hail of bullets, police radio captured the moment. >> they're returning fire. >> reporter: a cabin burning to the ground and fugitive ex-cop christopher dorner believed inside. after six days of combing through big bear, the first dorner report came midday. the "l.a. times" reports two maids cleaning a home were tied up, their car stolen. the first law enforcement to spot the suspect in the stolen car were two fish and wildlife officers. >> first it was a purple nissan which he ultimately appeared to have been driving too fast, lost control of the vehicle, crashed it, carjacked the second white pickup and then was fleeing the scene, which is when our warden noticed him. they were so close that he recognized his face.
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>> reporter: suspected cop killer christopher dorner. the suspect opened fire, 15 shots, hitting the patrol car, narrowly missing the officers. they chased the truck to this cabin, as they began their approach, a man inside opened fire. the gun fight captured by a local news reporter's cell phone. [ gunfire ] radio calls from the officers. >> he's returning fire. >> reporter: then the heart-sinking call. >> we have an officer down, officer down. >> copy. >> medic is in the air, medic is in the air, officer down. >> another officer down. >> one of our deputies was injured, he's being treated here at loma linda and unfortunately one of our deputies passed away as a result of his injuries. >> all law enforcement agencies is a brotherhood so this is a
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very difficult day again for law enforcement. >> reporter: law enforcement closed down all roads in and out, searching cars leaving the mountain. back at the cabin officers saw no one leave, then this. >> i see more ammo going off. >> the person that barricaded himself inside the cabin and engaged in gunfire with our deputies and other law enforcement officers is still inside there. >> reporter: the cabin burned to the ground, the suspect believed still inside. san bernardino sheriff's department confident enough to drop the road blocks, even as they wait for dna identification, lapd's largest manhunt has come to an end. kyung lah, cnn, los angeles. >> after six days combing the mountains of big bear, california, new details emerging about how officers were able to finally spot dorner and eventually surround him. paul vercamen is live from big bear. the police were focussing on
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that resort for a long time. what can you tell us about how they finally managed to hone in on him? >> reporter: well, john, they had combed that neighborhood repeatedly. they went down that street and it would be shocking they didn't knock on the door, check out that house. two maids came in to clean this cabin and they, much to their surprise discovered dorner and he's unmistakable in his look, six feet tall, 270 pounds, he tied them up, he took their car, headed down the road, that's where the fish and wildlife officers found him, and dorner was using two school buses in a sense as a cover. he closely followed the bumper of one of the school buses, fish and wildlife pursued from there and ahead that's where they got first contact with dorner. >> paul vercammen in big bear thank you for being with us. terry turci led the task force to capture the unabomber with the fbi.
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this ended in a somewhat different bay. obviously the law enforcement officials yesterday knocked down the walls around the cabin, we're seeing reports of that and ultimately this cabin caught on fire, and there are charred remains inside that everyone suspects belong to christopher dorner. so my question to you is how do you know when it's time to stop negotiating and start really just going in aggressively? >> certainly in this case they already knew this man was very violent. he'd already been shooting. he was armed and there was not going to be much time lapse here. they were going to be prepared, get everybody there, get the s.w.a.t. team there, and when they had the right mix of resources, there was, if there were no hostages in there, they were going to be ready to go in pretty quickly, and there was so much violence that preceded this the week before that we're talking about a person who was out of control, had lost control and the police were going to be ready to act and act quickly, the reason being they weren't
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going to take any chances that he was going to get out of that cabin under any circumstances and be a public menace and kill more people, because he would have. >> we have a map showing this area here and there was that truck, that burnt out truck found there last week and then all of a sudden the sheriff's office started pulling resources out because they thought he might be near big bear, so you know, in retrospect, we don't want to second-guess here but do you think that may have been a decision that was unwise? >> well, they pulled some resources out but they also left some there, and i think that it's really important that while it looked as though they were scaling down and pursuing other leads, they still had a presence there and knew how to operate there and they still were able to get resources back there quickly when all of this began. they had the air support, they had the medical support. it's tragic and our hearts go out to the officers who are major league heroes that bottled him up in that cabin and one ended up losing his life and the
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other hopefully is doing much better today, but this is the nature of what law enforcement is, and all of those people out there recognize that. i actually in watching this over the week have nothing but the highest praise for the lapd and all of those agencies down there because kind of standing back and looking at how they got along, you could tell long before this happened that those agencies down there, federal, state and local, got together, were friends, had trained together, had worked together, and were committed to bringing this to the best end that they could, and it's a tough situation, and it's a particularly tough situation when it ends up in the wilderness. there is no worse place to operate than to be out in the middle of the wilderness and around every bend, every tree stump, every old abandoned piece of equipment, you simply don't know what's there, and looking back and my own experiences and seeing how they handled this and
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particularly going to the public through the media and trying to keep the public on top of this, i think they did a good job. >> there was an enormous amount of coordination, that he's for sure. terry, thank you for joining us. as you correctly point out this was a tragedy that affected a great many lives. later this morning we'll talk to los angeles mayor antonio villaraigos, talk to him about how this affected his city and his police force. a few hours president obama will travel to north carolina, rallying support of the proposals he laid out last night in a state of the union address. cnn/orc poll found 53% of americans had a positive reaction to the speech, 24% who were watching the speech said they had a somewhat positive, 22% negative reaction. brianna keilar is live at the white house. brianna good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, soledad. president obama had a message for republicans, he said deficit reduction alone is not an economic plan, even as he urged
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congress to work together, we heard echoes of the campaign where he talked about people having a fair shot, and also a lot about investing in the middle class, in education, and energy and an increase in the minimum wage. >> we can say with renewed confidence that the state of our union is stronger. >> reporter: in the first state of the union address of his second term, president obama unveiled a slate of new proposals, aimed at improving the lives of the middle class, taking on everything from universal preschool education to repairing the nation's aging infrastructure, to addressing the threat of climate change. he urged congress to put partisan differences aside on the issue of immigration, and to stay focused on a plan to jumpstart the nation's lethargic economy. >> the american people have worked too hard for too long rebuilding from one crisis to see their elected officials cause another. >> reporter: renewing an unfulfilled promise from his
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first presidential campaign, obama asked congress to increase the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour. >> let's declare that in the wealthiest nation on earth, no one who works full time should have to live in poverty. let's tie the minimum wage to the cost of living so that it finally becomes a wage you can live on. >> reporter: in the moment of the night, the president called on congress to vote for tougher gun legislation, stepped up background checks and an assault weapons ban. >> gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. >> reporter: on national security, the president warned of the threats posed by enemy hackers, announcing new measures to increase information sharing, and adding long-sought details on the pace of the drawdown in afghanistan announced plans to bring home nearly half the troops serving there by this time next year.
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>> another 34,000 american troops will come home from afghanistan, this drawdown will continue and by the end of next year our war in afghanistan will be over. >> reporter: how will all of this be paid for? the president vowed. >> nothing i'm proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime. >> reporter: but white house officials are not putting a price tag on the president's proposals. they say the dollars and cents will be fleshed out when he releases his budget next month. john and soledad? >> all right, brianna thank you. >> it was republican senator marco rubio who gave the gop response to the state of the union address. he was criticizing big government and saying that the president's deficit reduction plan will not help the middle class. >> the tax increases and the deficit spending you propose will hurt middle class families. it will cost them their raises, it will cost them their benefits. it may even cost some of them their jobs and it will hurt seniors because it does nothing
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to save medicare and social security. so mr. president, i don't oppose your plans because i want to protect the rich. i oppose your plans because i want to protect my neighbors. hard-working, middle class americans who don't need to us come up with a plan to grow the government. they need a plan to grow the middle class. >> now in just a few minutes we will have more republican response with the very powerful ohio senator rob portman. zoraida sambolin has a look at other stories making news. the conclave to decide who will succeed the president will be held as early as march 15th. sorry, succeed the pope, pope benedict xvi celebrates what will likely be his last public mass today, that's today is ash wednesday. before mass at st. peter's basilica he greeted thousands of faithful in the square, thanked them in several languages and right off the bat addressed his decision to retire.
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>> translator: i've done this in full freedom for the benefit of the church, but i have prayed for a long time, and i have sought my conscience, fully aware of the gravity and seriousness of such act. >> he also told followers he thought it would be inappropriate to stay on as pope. we are hearing for the first time this morning from the mother of the now 6-year-old alabama boy who was taken from a school bus and held in a bunker for a week. in an interview airing today on "the dr. phil show" jennifer kirkland says her son absolutely did see police fatally shoot his kidnaper, identified as jimmy lee dykes. >> how did you feel when he heard he might be crying for his mom? >> i wanted to be there. i would have took his place. >> did he see mr. dykes shot and killed? >> he absolutely did. he says the army came in and shot the bad man. >> kirkland also says her son
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has had trouble sleeping since the kidnapping. new tales of who ahorror fre disabled carnival cruise ship that is slowly being pulled back to the states from the gulf of mexico. passengers say the toilets are overflowing and they are running out of food. if all goes well the ship is expected to arrive in mobile, alabama, on thursday. we'll have a live report coming up from mobile at the bottom of the hour. and banana joe is the best in show, the paffenpinscher win the dog show. he got his name because he looks like a little monkey dog. you know soledad i told you we'd get a little information on him. is he a fun-loving but sometimes mischievous little dog, very intelligent and good with kids if you train your kids because
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he's so small. >> if you train your kids. >> there's a couple of hints, train your kids, he's mischievous. go to the pound and get a dog. >> the personality of a terrier so good luck with that. >> thank you, z. >> you're welcome. the attempt at a sip of water, senator rubio's water break has become a trending moment on youtube. [ all ] fort benning, georgia, in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto-insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. new griddle-melts to yourime usual breakfast sandwich.
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president obama working to compromise on imfwrags migratio guns as well. >> the american people don't expect government to solve every problem. they don't expect those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue. but they do expect us to put the nation's interests before party. >> senator rob portman is a republican from ohio, nice to have with you us, sir. >> absolutely. >> what did you make of the speech last night? >> it was kind of mixed. he laid out a lot of new federal spending programs after saying he wanted to work with republicans on the deficit and wasn't going to increase spending by a single dime, laid out as i counted them ten new spending programs, it was more of the same but i was most encouraged what he said about entitlement reform and tax
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reform. >> why? >> because i think as president his role is to explain to the american people what's really going on. we're awash in red ink, the entitlement programs as important as they are are not sustainable in their current form. tough political decisions to be made and at one point in the speech, despite i think doing a lot of the old tax and spend of the last four years at one point he said we need to reform our entitlement programs and it's not going to be easy and that's what the american people need to hear from him. folks are tired of hearing this notion that somehow everything is fine, they know the economy is not doing well and somehow it's okay to have a 16 1/2 going on $17 trillion debt. >> many people looked at immigration as sort of the next easier thing to do because there seems to be a lot of consensus. do you think in fact entitlement reform could be after that, can be the third rail and we saw in an election year it's like the fifth rail. no one wants to tackle it. it becomes ugly and fast. >> we have to address it, if we don't those programs will not be
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sustainable in their current form and that's the reality. the. the knows that. if you look at what the congressional budget told us last week, a nonpartisan group in congress that gives us the scoring, how much things are going to cost they said these programs will over the next ten years double in their cost and look, they've said you can't cash it with income taxes, you can't tax enough to catch up to the programs. for the sake of our seniors and for the sake of their kids and grandkids we have to figure out how to preserve and save these programs and we need the president's help in doing so and so that was the most positive thing i heard him say. i'm going to be talking to jack lew about that today, he's at the finance committee for his confirmation hearings. i suspect jack lew had something to getting that into the speech last night. i hope he'll get that done. >> what about closing tax loopholes, something mitt romney campaigned on, he was going to reform the taxes, raise revenue. is that something you could support again? >> absolutely. republicans have been out there talking about pro-growth tax
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reform for a long time. by the way the president talked about it three states of the union ago so he's talked about it, too. the fact is he hasn't presented a single proposal and every time we tried to move forward with tax reform the president raised concern. here's the question, if you want to grow the economy, do things that are pro-growth, get the private sector going to create middle class and better jobs, his own jobs council told him tax reform is part of that and the president seems intent on picking out one loophole after another and holding those up which by the way don't come close to paying for the programs he's laid out without talking about this need to do comprehensive tax reform that increases economic growth by broadening the base attack, simplifying the code and lowering the rates, not tax cuts but tax neutral, revenue neutral tax reform. >> many times we look at almost every address, excuse me, to see if there's an olive branch or sort of a club being presented. how would you read what was
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presented last night? i saw very, the moment of the clapping when there was, you know, they deserve a vote, they deserve a vote, they deserve a vote you could see i thought speaker boehner seemed conflicted whether to stand and clap and everybody else was clapping then he kind of stopped and sat because there's a lot behind that. >> i think the president was ambivalent as to whether he wants the governor to be a successful politician. the campaign is behind us. there was plenty of club last night, plenty of straw men he threw out. one is concerning, "you republicans believe deficit reduction is by itself the only economic growth plan." of course no republican believes that. we're all for pro-growth tax reform, regulatory relief, getting energy costs down and so on. >> you thought that was a particular jab. >> he didn't say republicans, he said deficit reduction alone is not an economic growth plan. >> i think it was directed at republicans. i'm sure republicans felt that. i think it was a mix and at other points the president did extend an olive branch.
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i think it's interesting when the president talked about immigration reform, and when he said we need to do something to ensure we have high-tech workers here to grow middle class jobs, everybody stood up, i think that was an example where again his own job council talked about that. if the president wants to find common ground can he. the same is true with regard to entitlements, if the president is willing to provide the necessary political cover frankly to democrats to do the right thing, many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle believe we must address this problem. they know we have to do tax reform and by the way they work well together and i think we'll make great progress over the next three and a half years. >> senator portman thanks for being with us. from an awkward sip of famous, the most famous sip of water in history to a fist bump, we'll tell you the top trending moments from the state of the union coming up next. ] [ male announcer ] trophies and awards lift you up.
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a. welcome back, everybody. trending this morning, thanks to the state of the union, we know that president obama is a big fan of the fist bump but it seems the gesture has evolved to now the exploding fist bump. right there. my 8-year-old boys do that, too, that's what happened when he was greating mark kick on his way up to the podium, exploding fist bump, republican senator returned the favor to them then
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they moved on. >> senator kirk year-long recovery from a stroke. >> i little silver lining to are bipartsonship. >> the mark rubio sip-up that's being hash tagged watergate, i also heard "zero dark thirsty" i've heard aqua lung, it's all out there. senator rubio reached for a tiny bottle of water during the republican response to the president's state of the union address. you know, it was such an innocent, innocent, small jess tier but y gesture but you knew it was going to go viral. lot of people are giving props to poland spring. >> he said listen i was thirsty. i just delivered the rebuttal, 18-minute long rebuttal in spanish and i need a sip of water. >> god has a funny way of reminding us we're human. >> absolutely. major development, police found charred remains after a standoff in the woods in california, but are those remains those of killer, accused
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killer christopher dorner? we'll talk with los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa ahead. and families desperate to see loved ones trapped on a cruise ship. next, one mother terrified for her daughter, stuck in the gulf of mexico.
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a . more on the dorner manhunt this morning.
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developing overnight a lethal manhunt could be over and charred remains are found in a burned out cabin where christopher dorner's ten-day killing spree appears to become to a fiery end. police believe dorner was killed inside that cabin. casey wian is live at los angeles police headquarters. w where does the investigation stand now? >> reporter: the active manhunt appears to be over, no longer a heavy police presence at the lapd police headquarters, but the investigation continues, the first order of business, trying to determine if those charred remains in that burnt out cabin south of big bear are those of christopher dorner. san bernardino county sheriffs officials say they need to conduct forensic testing to determine the identity of those remains.
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we don't know what kind of shape those remains are in so it could take some time. another part of this investigation that is ongoing, dorner was apparently up in the big bear area for about six days, could he have done that without any help? lapd officials want to know. >> anybody who has assisted him, assisted him in hiding from the police department, assisted him in avoiding capture or assisted him in any way is criminally culpable. i can assure you the los angeles police department and the district attorney's office will leave no stone unturned to find out if, in fact, someone was assisting this man in his terrible crimes and his alluding capture. >> we're expecting a briefing from the lapd in about two and a half hours from now. we'll see if they have any more details about this investigation, soledad. >> casey wian for us this morning, thank you. in just a few moments we'll talk with mayor los angeles, antonio villaraigosa is our guest straight ahead. john? president obama hits the road to drum up support for his
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propolesals he spelled out in his state of the union last night. he said congress and the white house must work together to create jobs and try to grow the economy. >> most of us agree that a plan to reduce the deficit must be part of our agenda, but let's be clear, deficit reduction alone is not an economic plan. a growing economy that creates good, middle class jobs, that must be the north star that guides our efforts. >> florida senator marco rubio delivered the official republican response, taking issue with the president's economic plan. >> and the idea that more taxes and more government spending is the best way to help hard-working middle class taxpayers? that's an old idea that's failed every time it's been tried. more government isn't going to help you get ahead. it's going to hold you back. more government isn't going to create more opportunities. it's going to limit them, and more government isn't going to
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inspire new ideas, new businesses and new private sector jobs. it's going to create uncertainty. >> and in yet another response to the president, kentucky senator rand paul spoke for the tea party and criticized both parties for what he called excessive spending. now in what may have been the most emotional part of the speech the president invoked the names of gun victims in the audience as he called on congress to pass tougher gun laws. the nra responded posting a web video highlighting what it claims is the threat to law-abiding gun owners. >> the obama administration believes that a gun ban will not work without mandatory gun confiscation and universal background checks will not work without requiring national gun registration. still think president obama's proposals sound reasonable? >> in about 20 minutes we'll talk with cleopatra pendleton and nathaniel pendleton, the parents of the shooting victim
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hadiya pendleton. you've heard some of the details from that carnival cruise ship being slowly pulled back to the united states from the gulf of mexico, where it sort of broke down. we've heard about the food running out. we heard about the toilets overflowing. here is a passenger describing just how really disgustingly bad it has become. >> raw sewage in the hallway, you have to cover your face, it's disgusting. >> sounds disgusting. victor blackwell is live in mobile, alabama, that's the direction the ship is headed. they're expected to arrive tomorrow. there must be a number of relatives and friends and family members who have camped out where you are hoping to be the first to see their other relatives get off that ship, right? >> reporter: there are and we saw the first two before sunrise, they're mothers from lufkin, texas, they came here to greet their young daughters, their names are kim and mary. those are the parents. kim has a 10-year-old daughter, mary has a 12-year-old daughter,
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they're here waiting for two of those more than 3,000 passengers on board this ship scheduled to arrive tomorrow in the afternoon, and once they get here, they'll have some options, the people who don't have family members waiting, they can either get on planes tomorrow and head off to houston or they can get on buses and head to either galveston or houston. there are also hotel rooms, 1,500 in mobile and new orleans. let's talk more about the two parents, kim and mary. kim received a phone call from her young daughter, her 10-year-old, here's her description of that call on monday. >> he said that the conditions have gotten so bad they're asking them to use the restroom in bags, and they were eating onion sandwiches and that was on monday, you know, and i haven't heard anything since. i've just been following the news feed and that they were going to be here in mobile, alabama, and so i was going to be here a day early, and not two minutes later when that boat arrived. >> reporter: and mary says when she spoke with her daughter she
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was hysterical. mary was at work and said it was just heart-breaking that she could not do anything to help her daughter, but they're here, they have antibiotics with them for when their daughters get off this boat, they'll be able to take them and hopefully won't have any health concerns. we know this deembarkation process should take two and a half hours. we're expected to see the boat come in early tomorrow and from the mobile bay pass all the way up to the port should take six hours for that ship to come in. >> quite a while. victor, these little girls are not by themselves. are they with a school group, other friends? how are they on the ship without their moms? >> reporter: they're with their dads. the dads are there. these women, their ex-husbands have the kids and they're together. they're friends from the same town and vacationing with their dads' families. >> got it. appreciate it. ashleigh banfield will talk to both of the moms victor was
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this morning we've learned human remains have been found in the cabin where christopher dorner was allegedly cornered by police. joining us is los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa, he's been following the case over the last ten days. mayor thank you for joining us, we know it's dominated your life. >> it has dominated by life but not as much as people targeted
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by christopher dorner, as you probably know, although we found these remains, at this point we've not identified him so those people will still have protective detail until we're sure that it is him. >> when do you think that will be, sir? do you have any details and is there a sense of relief among the police community in los angeles this may be over? >> the answer is i don't know when it will be. it could be hours, days, maybe even weeks. i'm not the right person to ask that but i can tell you that there is a sigh of relief among the vast majority of these officers. i got to talk to many of the people who were targeted. i called them and i can tell you almost to the person, they weren't worried about themselves. remember he targeted innocent people, their families,
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children. this was a terrorizing experience for these officers and these people because they weren't the only targets. their families were targets. >> it must be a huge relief not just for the officers but the people in the area who were very concerned. the biggest reward ever offered you had $1 million. does that look like that money will go to someone? was there a particular tip that ended up being helpful? at the end of the day? >> i'm not sure yet. it may be that the people that were tied up who called the police that led to them finding the person we believe is christopher dorner may get a reward. we still have to identify this body. we think, almost everybody believes it is him but at this point we're not sure. maybe they'll qualify for this million-dollar reward. when the chief asked me to
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spearhead raising the money, it wasn't hard to do. people from irvine and riverside and all across the region came together to say let's find this person as quickly as possible. >> los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa thank you for joining us. you can hear in your voice how trying this has been for the entire community so thanks. >> thank you, sir, nice to see you as always. the president says that hadiya pendleton, a teenager gunned down in chicago and her parents, too, deserve a vote on gun control legislation. is that enough for victims of gun violence? >> hadiya's parents were there during the state of the union address, they will join us live coming up next. what's your preferred search engine? search engine, uhh, probably google. if we do a side by side blind test comparison, and you end up choosing google, you get an xbox. i'll bet you the xbox, you bet me your son. well let's look up what you need. okay, i would do the left. yeah? what?! i am a daddy! bing wins it!
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just three weeks ago she was here with her classmates performing for her country at my inauguration. week later, she was shot and killed at her park after school, just a mile away from my house. hadiya's parents, nate and cleo, are in this chamber tonight
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along with more than two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. >> an emotional moment last night at the president implored congress to vote on gun reform calling out the names of gun violence victims including 15-year-old hadiya pendleton, she was shot and killed in chicago allegedly by gang members on a playground. >> you heard the president talk about nate and cleo pendleton, the guests of first lady michelle obama and they're with us this morning. what was is like to hear him talk about your daughter that way? it must just rip your heart out honestly. >> yeah t does because it's all so fresh. it's an honor that he would be speaking of my child, it's unfortunate, the circumstances to talk about her in, so. >> how are you guys holding up? you're going through something i think absolutely no parent could imagine surviving, honestly.
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>> day by day. >> yes. >> day by day. >> hour by hour. yes. >> does it help at all to be focused on the gun control issue? do you feel like you're doing something? >> yes, and i feel like talking about her and getting the word out and becoming more involved with, you know, the issue is empowering, so to speak. it helps. >> you know that it's very unlikely that they will pass legislation that would ban assault weapons. people talk about, but the reality is, most people think that would not happen. how do you feel about getting into this debate? do you think that's critical? would you be fine with a national registry? >> the only thing that i could possibly say is, i know we need assault weapons because we have an army, but how are they
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getting on our streets? that's what i would like to know, how some kind of a way these are being leaked, why can't we just stop them from being sold in, you know, regular stores? you know? >> it doesn't seem like an assault weapons ban will get passed through congress. even president obama said he'd like to see at least a vote on this. is a vote enough for you? >> it's a start. something's better than nothing, i would say. they need to do something, something needs to happen. it's their issue, it's been an issue for me, you know, this issue is extremely fresh because -- >> i can't imagine. >> right, you know, so before my daughter's death, of course, when i was hearing talk of guns i would think of it in terms of my family, which are hunters, so no one bans guns, they're hunters so i believe there's a right to bear arms, but as far
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as the, putting weapons on the street that could hinder the performance of police officers and you know, various how do i say that -- >> law enforcement officials trying to protect people. >> those weapons should not be readily available to anyone. >> tell us about your daughter, when we see pictures and her uniform and just smiling. she looks like an amazing, amazing little girl. >> never sad. >> she was never sad. >> even if she was, you couldn't tell. you couldn't tell. she had a great way of hiding it. bubble bubbly, always smiling. >> i read that she had a number of girlfriends who each thought that they were her best friend. >> and she thought they were best friends, too, she was very
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supportive, very -- she would listen, very non-judgmental, so funny, you know. just quirky and when i say quirky, it's really in the context of just the small things that meant so much that she would kind of forget or just real dpoofball, excuse my tears. >> the first lady came to the funeral, she obviously invited to you sit in that box last night. what has that meant to you and your family? >> well for me personally it means everything because -- it meant the world, it was quite an honor, but it was also an honor in the name of hadiya. she wanted to perform for the president and first lady and so i felt like her funeral, the first lady being present there, you know, it was like her ability to perform for it
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because all her friends spoke about her, the administrators and things of that nature that knew and loved her, it was like a performance for hadiya and th then being there yesterday was greater things and spoke volumes to her life and how she lived. >> cleo and nate thank you for coming in to talk to bus her. our hearts break for you and we hope they figure out what to do in chicago and elsewhere and gun violence and thousand solve the problem. it's devastating. we appreciate you talking with us. >> thank you. we have to take a short break. we're back in a moment. a
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